Thursday, September 28, 2006

The white lies behind the American flag

During one of my research visits to Library of Congress I came across information that would lead to facts that would shatter an old American myth: that Betsy Ross, a white woman, had sewn the first American flag.

Here’s the myth: In 1776 Ross was visited by George Washington who showed a design for a new American flag. Ross then created it and it eventaully became the flag known today as the stars and stripes.

There no historical record of such an occurrence. It is a fact that her husband, John Ross had African slaves on his land and among them were descendants of the African empires of the Mandinka and the Songhai. Among the many great skills of these Africans was their advanced knowledge of weaving. So great were their skills, many African Kings and Queens had their clothing made by them. In addition, it simply unlikely that a white person of European descent of this era would have had the skills needed to create a flag.

I searched the records and among the Africans held captive by John Ross was a woman known as “Oyo” which was a kingdom of Mandinka. I believe it was Oyo who created the flag and not Betsy Ross. I found a letter written by Ross in which he indicated that Oyo was used to fashion and repair clothing.

It is likely that the flag she created the new United States looked more like these current African flags: http://thumb7.shutterstock.com/photos2/thumb_large/4863/4863,1113926579,2.jpg

So great was (and is) the white man’s hatred for Africa, it only stands to reason that Washington, Ross and other whites perverted Oyo’s flag replaced the natural African colors with the harsh red, white and blue we see on the American flag today.

In other words, the American flag is a white lie.

60 comments:

Anonymous said...

Awesome stuff, where is Oyo burried?

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Anonymous said...

nobody kept records of slaves. ever. and even if this person did, the records would have been considered garbage and thrown out. so how would you knwo that a slave was named oyo?

Anonymous said...

Soooo, let me get this straight. Some unknown woman created a flag similar to the African flags, then the "evil white people" corrupted the flag and recreated it with different colors. So what you're saying is that Betsy Ross really did make the flag? After all, someone had to recreate it, by your logic.

Anonymous said...

To the anon, who stated records were never kept of slaves, you're wrong and many still exist today. Do people actually research these things before speaking?

Anonymous said...

anon 8/13/2007:

consider where you are. do you THINK anyone here has researched anything? it does not take much to unweave (pun inteneded) "truth_first's" (sic) lies.

Anonymous said...

"So great was (and is) the white man’s hatred for Africa, it only stands to reason that Washington, Ross and other whites perverted Oyo’s flag replaced the natural African colors with the harsh red, white and blue we see on the American flag today."

Harsh red, white, and blue we see on American flag we see today? Dude, you really seem to hate this country. If you don't like the U.S. that much go to your beloved Africa and see the poverty, disease civil war, and strife (which I'm sure, in you opinion, is the all the white man's fault) they have over there and you'll be begging to come back over here.

You should be grateful to live in a country that provides you the privilege, not a right, to spew the hate-filled bullshit that is coming out of your mouth.

Guru said...

///nobody kept records of slaves. ever. and even if this person did, the records would have been considered garbage and thrown out.///

Some slavemasters and their wives kept journals of their day to day lives. Some slaves even kept secret journals of their lives. What the white man writes is not considered garbage by other whites so they wouldn't throw eachother's journals out.

///truth_first's" (sic) lies///

Most the things written in history books are sick lies, much of what this man is saying is actually truthful. For a white person to call anything sic or evil is pretty funny.

///If you don't like the U.S. that much go to your beloved Africa and see the poverty, disease civil war, and strife (which I'm sure, in you opinion, is the all the white man's fault) they have over there and you'll be begging to come back over here.///

Have you heard of the Pan-Afrikan movement? Black people try to unite with their brother and sisters in Afrika but end up being killed and their attempt dismantled ultimately by whites. The diseased condition of AIDS and the HIV retrovirus was created by the whiteman, so was the poverty, war, and other issues in Afrika. So you are correct in saying that much of this has to do with the whiteman. If me and you were stuck in a grocery store for a couple weeks and I died from starvation, you know something is wrong. I was denied any kind of food even though my whole atmosphere was filled with all kinds of foods. This is the same situation in Afrika, they have much resources forcefully taken from them.

///You should be grateful to live in a country that provides you the privilege, not a right, to spew the hate-filled bullshit that is coming out of your mouth.///

If this Black man publically said these things the government and white secret societies (the same thing) would have him killed just like any other Blacks who speak out against them. I guess Blacks should be grateful to be in America where they are treated harshly. Lets take a look at a day to day life of a Black American. First of all, the kids don't know their father because he was taken to jail. The reason he was in jail was because his kids were hungry and he did anything to feed them, even if it broke the law. You have to feed your kids, its a natural instinct to do whatever it takes. Whites have a savage instinct to take from people even when they are not in need. Next, the kids goto school and learn that Blacks are inferior and Afrika has no civilizations and is filled with savages, monkeys, and kids from feed the children commercials. Next, these kids goto eat dinner and are fed poisions because that is the only thing that is affordable. These poisons go by the name Kool-Aid, chicken, and any other kind of "soul food" which actually really is called "slaved food". The kids throughout their whole life have trouble finding jobs even though they have college degrees, often times they are thrown in jail for no proper reason. If they do end up inventing something or writing a script like the Matrix, it is then taken by whites and said to be theres. Then the kids go home and bow down to a white god, and inferiorize themselves by calling whites "The man" and referring to themselves as "baby", "boy", and other degrading names. So through just this short analysis I have summed up how the daily life for Blacks in America SUCKS!!!!

Anonymous said...

Ok 1. Guru, I eat chicken daily, it's not poisonous. 2. We don't own slaves anymore black people are free. If you don't like this country go back to Africa.

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Anonymous said...

Wow, this story is a bunch of bull crap. Why are black people always trying to rewrite history or trying to take credit for stuff accomplished by white people and then saying the white man stole that from us? Why do blacks have to hate so much? You say whites are racist but you are more racist than anyone. I have an idea. If you want to contribute to the human race than stop stealing, murdering and slinging your ghetto bullshit everywhere and actually do good and for crying out load stop speaking in ebonix. You sound stupid.

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Anonymous said...

They kept records of horses, cows and slaves. You are a misinformed white person.

Anonymous said...

Stop telling us to go back to Africa we didn't come here yesterday, we were brought here on slave ships 600 years ago and forced to stay against our will, so 600 years later this is our home just as much as yours.

Thomas shields said...

First of all this comment you just made shows your true nature no matter your color.Second it is this persons human right emphasis on right to say whatever they want and its not hate filled its just the way YOU interpreted it.So lets not make this personal but keep in on an educational level. And to be clear also erasing all doubt records were indeed kept because slaves weren't treated as humans but merchandise and so with any product bought or traded there will be a receipt or bill of purchase.

Anonymous said...

Funny that somebody would make a point about grammar while writing "ebonix" which isn't even a word. Try "Ebonics" next time, buddy. I also find the white hatred being spewed toward somebody who openly said they "believe" this may be the case, rather than saying they have discovered this to be true. The rewriting of history is constantly occurring due to the fact that many of our historical records are based on one-sided lies. Furthermore, the Betsy Ross story in particular is hardly a matter of "history" nor a part of the "historical record." The story was first told roughly 75+ years later by the grandson of betsy ross. So historians with any self respect regard this tale as an american myth for now, as the research into it is still a work in progress. It may very well be the case that neither betsy, her slave, nor anybody she knew sewed the first flag. So the hatred and anti black "go back to africa" rhetoric serves no purpose whatsoever other than to highlight your own ignorance, as you may not be defending a story which even occurred. Btw this is coming from a VERY white man with a degree in history from Princeton.

Anonymous said...

Oh and one more note on the "ebonix" or "ebonics" point... It is downright idiotic to make a statement in defense of white people while even MENTIONING ebonics, which is a dialect formed as the direct result of white men making it ILLEGAL for slaves to learn reading, writing, or grammar. This dialect has carried down from parent to child and so on for hundreds of years. Which brings us to another point about all the talk of appreciating America. I believe the fact that he has done his own research shows an appreciation of this country which many of these hatemongers do not show. To educate yourself outside the bounds of propangandized stories is STILL outlawed in many nations, so he is exercising his rights as an American. Further following in the grand tradition of those blacks who managed to educate themselves even when it was illegal for them to do so in America.

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Ken said...

Very well written Anonymous.

Ken said...

Very well written Anonymous.

Anonymous said...

What strikes me as odd is white people telling balck people "go back to Africa" ? White people...you are guests in the country...your ancestors are from england...you all got here by boat too....so you go back where you come from

Anonymous said...

Slaves were considered personal property so Whites did indeed keep detail records of them - since it was equivalent to counting their property (assets). Additionally, a slave owner who knew the value of a slave's talent for sewing and the like, would have gotten a lot of money off of such talents. It is highly probable then that the owner would have recorded these items/skills and recorded her work in his journals. Betsy Ross did not make the flag. White america just wants to make that the official story, because how can you feel prideful about the legacy of slavery. And they don't want Americans/world to associate talent of such a notable icon with Blacks.

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Anonymous said...

If u adk me this land belongs to the native americans .So people that are talking all that noise should do some research like there telling smone else to do.

Anonymous said...

the truth will set many free. I see that many people ACCEPT the bull shit that white America and the illuminate have IMPLAMENTED. Some folks dodge the truth or simply don't have the common since
required to get through life. The world can barely remember how fucked up these people are until you see video footage of a white cop killing a black or the judicial system letting white killers clear as day walk while someone selling drug to escapethe poverty that the system had implemented before the day we were born. Wake up we don't live in tv land. Heres how it works just as a child tells lies and will not confess until his ass is caught and even after that the shit might not say anything. Same for these muthafucka police killing us and acting like they were in danger sanding over a person firing 6 round because they really wanted to be the white over see. we wont go back to the old day even though the old days are right in front of us.

Anonymous said...

for you idiots saying go back to Africa, why don't you all go back to Europe where you came from? You do not belong here and this is not your land. Africans were here before you all came and Columbus did not discover a damn thing lol....

Anonymous said...

America is so separated!!! Skin color still divides this country, no wonder why the country is in the shape its in...this is why others are allowed to attack us because Americans are so concerned with staying separated...

Anonymous said...

A lot of the slaves were sold to the Europeans by their own people look up that history

Anonymous said...

WoW your ignorance and hatred come through very clear. Ignorance- you state that "the white people wouldn't have the skill to sow" You are kidding me right? So the 1000's of years in cloths making vanished from everyone head on the boat ride over? You say you found a letter. Where is it at? Do you have a picture? Do you have a Reference number for the Library of Congress so others can see this letter? See all this kind of post does is extend the gap between races. And that's what the 3% of the wealthy want. They don't care what race you are, just as long as you are preoccupied with racism to fix the real issues in this country. So please keep feeding into this crap so they will continue to have the power and brain wash you.

Anonymous said...

I'm just trying to figure out why the Africans were running around mostly naked while the Europeans/Anglos/Colonials/Pilgrims, etc. were so well dressed. According to the article, it should have been the other way around. White people didn't know how to knit, Africans were master knitters...

Anonymous said...

Biggest bunch of Horse S**t I have read. Always research your data FIRST and not pick and choose what you want to hear or publicize in order to further your agenda. THERE ARE other people on here that may have majored in History and/or are HISTORIANS on the matter that you chose so carelessly to post as a fact. Be responsible and let the facts speak for themselves and not what you choose. TOTALLY BOGUS and you have insulted the intelligence of anyone that may have wasted their time reading this. God have mercy on your soul.

Anonymous said...

To everyone that has posted here, stop and think for a minute. I am not learned nor highly educated I do see fault in a lot of what you all say. First, slavery did not start here! Because of a war that killed thousands, slavery ended here. If you still carry the oppression of slavery maybe you should direct your energies to help those still enslaved in this word. Second, if you feel that you are superior to another because of your skin color then get out your globe (you do have a globe don't you) and draw me a line between white and black. And thirdly, today when many can read ( at least those who choose to) we must realize that hundreds of years ago most could not read and had to depend on those they trusted to inform them of current events. Today we have the internet where we can do our own research yet we choose to believe so many that spew hatred. Remember that Jesus nor Muhammad was black or white!

trudat said...

Why would a women who had slaves sit and sew a flag..think people...WHITE LIES!

Anonymous said...

Shut yo racist dumb ass up, talking about records wasnt kept....LMAO and yes it is white M.F.'s fault that the whole world fucked up, stole not only land but everything even history... and why yo white ass talking they real white people don't and won't accept yo stupid ass, just use you to do dumb shit and take the fall... They call you not ah nigger but poor white trailer trash...look that up pink toe..

Anonymous said...

Stupid ass this land belongs to us all!!

Anonymous said...

Look deeper thats a myth, that's the history they told you dummy

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Anonymous said...

Hate and violence we learned from white society

sandman said...

We have 500 years of history to catch up on. We will never get credit for our greatness

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Yeah asswhole is so easy to tell us to get out of our own country and go back to africa, the whites an europeans us here, most inportanly is that this isnt even your country its Gods so what gives you the right to spit that racism out of your mouth,God created this world for all of us....so you really need to shut you stupid mouth... an pray that you go to heaven with u die, there's no such thing as white heaven...look deeper into history an you'll see a lot...

Anonymous said...

Actually, Francis Hopkinson is the creator of the American flag, according to Congressional journals. Seeing as he was the official graphics designer of the United States, one would assume they'd have him make it instead of some random ass person.

Iknowurrealstory said...

America has proverty, civil unrest, strife, and disease,as well as, advantages not enjoyed by some countries. Africa has AWESOME resources, beauty, great universities, institutions of higher learning.THAT'S why whites constantly move there. It's NOT just a jungle with wild animals or people. Have you been there? Or are you going by what the white media wants us to think? My people have contributed to the building of the USA. Not just with free slave labor, but in science,industry,philosophy, the arts,inventions,medicine,technology,more than Europeans are willing to admit! We built America! We WILL NOT BE MOVED,& WE WILL EXPRESS OUR DISPLEASURE IN THE EVIL MACHINATIONS OF THE WHITE WANNA BE SUPREMACIST!

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Tanya Horton said...

Yes they stole oyo idea like they stole everything else

Anonymous said...

I'm native American and white. There is a system in place that is holding people down. It is there. Stop hating. Stop blaming the race for the person. It doesn't matter your pigment. Fight the system. Not each other. Fuck racism.
The people in power don't care about your race they care that you stay in your place. Move together. The whole thing will tumble down. I love you. I love your children.

bruce mcclendon said...

nobody ever kept records of slaves? Really? Your ignorance is astounding -I have in my possession and actual sales receipt from 1819 where my third great-grandfather went to Nashville Tennessee and purchased 18 slaves at $10 each.I have further records where he had to pay yearly tax on each one as during that time slaves were considered "property" and we're taxable.the tax on one particular year totaled $0.75 per slave.such records can be found in the National Archives, state county and local records during that time.you don't have a clue what you're talking about

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